Parents and students: Reject Jeff Walling ...
COMPREHENSIVE STUDY ON NON INSTRUMENTS IN
WORSHIP VS- INSTRUMENTS LEAVES JEFF WALLING
POSITION FOR PUSHING INSTRUMENTS IN WORSHIP
IN THE DUST AND UTTERLY DEFEATED.
FOR THIS INCREDIBLE AND AWESOME STUDY,
SEE - CLICK LINK HERE> http://instrumentalmusicinworshipornot.blogspot.com/
Whether Walling is speaking in Irvine, Oklahoma University, Winterfest,
or Pepperdine ...
Don't fall for Jeff Walling's demonic division building a house upon
on the sand, but build upon on the solid foundation- the rock
of Jesus Christ. Walling is not Christ's.
"1 But
the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from
the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of
demons,
2by means of the hypocrisy of liars seared in their own conscience as
with a branding iron ..." - 1 Timothy 4:1
"…11But the humble will inherit the land And will delight themselves
in abundant prosperity. 12 The wicked plots against the righteous
And gnashes at him with his teeth. 13The Lord laughs at him, For
He sees his day is coming .…" - Psalm 37:12
Sarcastic, rude, hypocrite and apostate Jeff Walling leads
Pepperdine Youth Leader Initiative, online publications say
rightly Walling is apostate, takes apostasy way to attempt
to promote church growth and in the process becomes worker of
Satan divider ... online publications say Walling accepts
denominations as believers (ignoring false teaching), with
humor mocks Christians to Youth rally ...
" Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing,
but inwardly they are ravening wolves. "
- Jesus Christ , Matthew 7:15
“Jesus turned and said to Peter, Get behind me, Satan! You
are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the concerns
of God, ..."
- Jesus Christ, Matthew 16:23
" For there shall arise false Christs, and false
prophets, and shall
show great signs and wonders; so that, if it were
possible, they
shall deceive the very elect. "
- Jesus Christ, Matthew 24:24
"All of us like sheep have gone astray, Each of us has turned to his
own
way; But the LORD has caused the iniquity of us all To fall on
Him." - Isaiah 53:6
Wednesday, March 18, 2015
Jeff Walling leads Pepperdine 'Youth Leader Initiative'-Whether Walling is speaking in Irvine, Oklahoma University, Winterfest, or Pepperdine, READ IT HERE- COMPREHENSIVE STUDY ON NON- INSTRUMENTS IN WORSHIP -VS- INSTRUMENTS LEAVES JEFF WALLING POSITION IN THE DUST, STUDY UTTERLY DEFEATS AND SLAMS POSITION OF 10 TIMES CHILD OF HELL and WORKER OF SATAN WALLING...
3/18/15- Jeff Walling leads his so called 'Youth Leadership Initaitive' at Pepperdine, a completely self centered hypocrite, disobedient and utter imbecile 10 times a child of hell. His dad must not have spanked him enough.- D.M.K.
| SHOULD YOUTH GO TO WINTERFEST? First, for those who may not be familiar with "Winterfest," it is an annual youth gathering in the Gatlinburg, Tennessee area which has drawn hundreds and hundreds of youth from many congregations. Second, be assured I am NOT against youth gatherings as such. I have carried youth to, and participated in, some excellent series which have resulted in good fruit. Youth are SO special and very important. They are at a critical time in their lives. Fervently we desire to teach, edify, support, aid and guard them as they mature in Christ. Third, I am NOT attempting to "police" the brotherhood. Within the last two weeks I have been asked in three separate conversations to help with information about this gathering, advise leaders with the facts and specifically Jeff Walling (the speaker for this year). Fourth, personal preference, likes or dislikes of a particular event or person, etc., must not determine the right or wrong of going to such activities. We must be willing to "LET THE BIBLE ANSWER" the matter. We MUST make our decisions based on principles and commands found within the pages of inspired Scripture. God has spoken! His Word can and must direct our steps in this age. If indeed we love and are determined to obey God, then we MUST take notice of the overwhelming testimony against support of such activities. Time and space does not allow an exhaustive study of these matters, but let's pose the following questions as very pertinent. Then we humbly request an examination of the Scriptures cited. QUESTIONS: "Do we not need to address the special needs of our youth?" "Can't we just go and 'hear' the good and leave the 'bad' alone?" "Doesn't Jeff teach a lot of 'good' along with the questionable things?" "Even if we attend, does it mean we agree with (or support) what is taught?" "Do we have the right to 'judge' and 'label' others?" "Well, just what has Jeff Walling taught that is so wrong?" Ephesians 5:11 -- "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them." FACT: The apostle Paul is clearly stating the faithful follower of God CANNOT fellowship (have joint participation) with teachers of evil or darkness. FACT: Instead of fellowship, we must be willing to reprove them. (If you disagree with this, take it up with the Almighty Father who inspired the writings of Paul.) 2 John 9-11 -- "Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds." FACT: It is possible to be religious, a teacher of spiritual matters, a powerful and persuasive speaker, but NOT teach the doctrine of Christ. FACT: A person such as this has "transgressed" (sinned). FACT: In God's view, such teachers are engaging in "evil deeds." FACT: Faithful Christians must NOT "receive" and "bid" (support, condone, encourage) God speed to them. FACT: If we bid God speed to them, we become partaker of their evil deeds! FACT: We can bid God speed to them by financially supporting them, encouraging them by purchasing their books, tapes and supplies. Galatians 1:6-9 -- "...there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed." FACT: It is possible to trouble and "pervert" the gospel of Christ (then and now). FACT: To preach a different gospel than the gospel of Christ is to be condemned in God's sight. Titus 1:11-13 -- "Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake....Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith." FACT: False teachers destroy and subvert whole houses. FACT: The mouths of false teachers MUST be stopped if we are to follow Paul's instruction. FACT: It must be accomplished by loving, strong, faithful Christians. Otherwise, we too might be carried away (Heb. 13:9). FACT: False teachers must be rebuked sharply, to help them be "sound in the faith." Matthew 7:15 -- "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves." FACT: A religious teacher, even a brother in Christ may look like a sheep, but actually be a ravenous wolf! FACT: We must be on guard and watch (Acts 20:31). FACT: Characteristics describing false teachers should cause great concern and alarm: deceitful (Eph. 5:6); seductive (Mark 13:21-22); dogs and evil workers (Phil. 3:2); devils (1 Tim. 4:1-3); evil men (2 Tim. 3:13); hypocrites (2 Peter 2:1-3); false prophets (1 John 4:1); ungodly men (Jude 4); corrupters of the Word of God (2 Cor. 2:17); have corrupt minds (1 Tim. 6:5); creep in (2 Tim. 3:6); creep in unaware (Jude 4); unruly and vain talkers (Titus 1:10); make God's Word of none effect (Matt. 15:6); teach commandments of men (Matt. 15:9); speak perverse things (Acts 20:30); transform themselves into ministers of righteousness (2 Cor. 11:13-15); speak lies (1 Tim. 4:2); speak words of vanity (2 Peter 2:18). Let us be open minded and willing to examine facts about this destiny-determining matter. "Can we not just go and hear (receive) the good and reject anything taught that is bad (contrary to the Word)?" First, on the same basis, why would we not go to Billy Graham, Jimmy Swaggert, or Oral Roberts gatherings (though we KNOW they fail to teach the whole truth of God). For ones who suggest such, I ask, how much error would have to be taught to make it "wrong" to attend? A little? Half? Folks, rat poison (I am told) is 98% harmless. It's the 2% poison that can kill you. Error kills. Further, while it might be possible for the "mature" Christian to hear and "discern" truth from error, surely we do not want to place our youth in such a treacherous position! Youth are intelligent, but dear ones, many of them are still "babes" in Christ. "What has Jeff Walling taught that is so wrong?" Space is insufficient to give thorough details to speakers and topics. These have been examined and exposed in various books and publications. A vast amount of material has been available for some time, for any and all who seek the truth and desire to defend it. How do we determine a teacher of TRUTH versus a teacher of ERROR? Obviously, by taking what he has stated or written (intelligent man is surely able to convey his beliefs clearly where it can be understood). In the early 1980's (over fifteen years ago), at a youth gathering in Andover, Kansas, Walling was a guest speaker. During a panel discussion, which was being moderated by Chuck Northrop (a faithful gospel preacher) the question arose concerning the scripturalness of instrumental music in worship. Brother Northrop correctly stated such was not authorized and supported his statements with Scripture. Walling (who was not a part of the panel) came to the podium and declared that instrumental music in worship is simply "a matter of opinion...a gray area." He has continued to defend that position in the years since that time (Cf. Behold The Pattern, p.215). About eight years ago, at the Soul Winning Workshop in Tulsa, Oklahoma, Jeff taught false doctrine as he spoke on the subject "That They All May Be One." Specifically he spoke on John 17. The church of our Lord was described in denominational terms. He advocated fellowship with denominations. He taught degrees of fellowship. In 1994, at the Pepperdine University Lectures, he spoke on "The Community Church...of Christ?" Those in attendance, taking his lesson at plain and simple value, would believe the denominational community church is designed and acceptable by Almighty God. He advocates the community church as the church of Christ in the New Testament also. At the recent Jubilee (1998) in Nashville, the video tape of Walling's three evening speeches include MECHANICAL MUSIC, a woman giving public testimony before the whole assembly, as well as an apology to the denominational world. The lessons also reflected sarcasm and ridicule of the "old paths" and the faithful, while suggesting change and restructure. From the initial phone call" to God to his closing speech, the audience was fed a steady diet of liberalism. Often, Walling (as well as others) makes fun and slurs others who are sincerely striving to walk in the steps of the Saviour. In his book, "Daring to Dance with God" he advocates that God is inviting us to come and dance with him...not at arms length; rather he pulls us in tight, taking us for the "dance of a lifetime...." His play on words is offensive, as he associates the holy with the profane. He talks about Christians whose "dancing shoes are too light." They need to let go and loosen up a little, he teaches. Other Christians he calls the "Gospel Gestapos" as ones ever on patrol for those who do or say things not exactly as they think it should be. I suppose anyone who dares question anyone, or who exposed another for teaching falsely would be so labeled. It is quite revealing to note that Max Lucado is the one who wrote the foreword to this book. This is the same one who a few months ago taught his radio audience to just let God be their father, and be saved. He told his listeners who had prayed that prayer (often otherwise referred to as the "sinner's prayer") they had been saved! Walling acknowledges Lucado for his inspiration, encouragement and letting him call him friend. (Yes, it is true that most often those of like persuasion do associate.) Can you imagine the apostle Paul using a false teacher to promote some work in which he was involved, and thanking him for his encouragement and for calling him friend. "But isn't Jeff Walling also scheduled to be the main speaker atDavid Lipscomb University soon?" Tragically, this is true! The powers that continue to chart the course for DLU seem determined to follow the movement of change and restructure. They are aware. Pleas have been made and ignored. The popular course is preferred instead of truth (doctrine). "Should we 'judge' and 'label' one another? Are we not all guilty of sin?" Yes, we are all guilty of sin (Rom. 3:23). But this does not neutralize our obligation to defend (Phil. 1:7,17) and contend (Jude 3) and guard and warn (Acts 20:28ff). We are commanded to judge righteously (John 7:24). How can one possibly obey Romans 16:17 of marking and avoiding them which cause division due to a "contrary" doctrine, if we do not judge? What does it mean to "label" (draw attention to them) when it says "mark" in Romans 16:17? How can we obey 2 John 9-11 of not bidding God speed to a teacher of a doctrine other than of Christ, unless we "judge?" The obvious conclusion, we must judge, mark, and identify teachers of false doctrines. It will not be pleasant. It is not enjoyable. It may involve a friend or family member, but it must be done, if we are to obey our Father! By the way, the "change agents" often charge those who are contending for the faith as being "unloving" and "brotherhood watchdogs" etc. These often declare that we are sinning when we "condemn" others. I have heard strong and vicious attacks made upon the Spiritual Sword journal or Memphis School of Preaching. Surely these inconsistent folks should be scolded themselves for "condemning" others. Are they "unloving" for charging others as being "unloving?" Are they "watchdogs" as they are "watchdogs" over others? Brethren, condemning the condemners is condemnation too! Before you make your final decision, or put this grave issue aside, will you examine the following series of questions? What would one have to teach to be a "false teacher?" Would accepting and embracing mechanical music in worship be enough? Would fellowshipping ones in man-made religions be sufficient? Would advocating and practicing women leading the worship assembly be adequate? Would teaching one to be saved by merely "calling God your father" be enough? (The "change agents" have done all of these and much more!) Would it EVER be right to "mark" others as false teachers? In view of the explicit commands in the Word of God, what would it take for such to be necessary and right? Would the passive and "love everybody" brethren be willing EVER to identify and expose the false teacher? Was the apostle Paul acting as God desired, in a Christ-like manner, setting an example for us, when he spoke of Alexander the coppersmith, Hymenaeus, Philetus as well as false teachers? He spoke by the power of Almighty God. His words are inspired. He acted righteously in these things. We should and must follow His example (1 Cor. 11:1). We must love everyone, seek the lost with the saving message of the Saviour, but are we not also COMMANDED to fight, war, defend, contend, and stand? Are these a part of the faithful Christian life? Do we have the right to "pick and choose" what we want to do? Can we fulfill our obligation to the Saviour without a balanced, complete obedience to ALL of God's commands? If it would be acceptable to go to and support Winterfest, would it be likewise acceptable to go to and support a Billy Graham Crusade? We could take the good and leave the bad, as some suggest. We could probably hear as much truth, as well as error, as many have done at some previous Winterfest, Jubilee, Tulsa gatherings. THINK! Go to the past for a great lesson. In the long ago a prophet of God was charged with being the one who "troubled" Israel. He was not guilty. He was, in fact, the one who was doing what God wanted. Those who charged the prophet were actually the ones who were guilty of being the "troublers" of Israel. Is it possible that many who are charged today with "troubling" the brotherhood, being "police" and "watchdogs" are actually the ones who are diligently seeking to obey the direct commands of their Lord? Is it possible that those who are so charging others, may actually be the ones who are "troublers" and further are they so weak and compromising that they fail to follow the instructions of God's Word? We Should NOT Send Our Youth There! We must make decisions on the facts. If we don't have the facts and were to attend an event and problems arise, then the problems could then be dealt with. But when we KNOW the facts before time, we surely should avoid dangerous situations. An eldership must make decisions for their local congregation. Autonomy is God's way! Others cannot (and should not) force opinions upon them. But dear brethren, elders MUST follow the Word of Almighty God. Elders can be encouraged to follow that Word. Elders surely are open and receptive to such admonition. Winterfest has proven itself to be a platform for those who teach a "contrary doctrine." There is no doubt concerning Jeff Walling being a "false teacher" ~ one who embraces positions (doctrines) contrary to the doctrine of Christ. He teaches some things right. But think, dear ones, is there anyone who is a religious teacher but what teaches SOME things correctly? Most teach MANY things accurately, but others through centuries of time shout "God demands complete obedience!" "God will NOT tolerate deviation!" "God won't accept error!" Why would any eldership allow the flock (over which the Holy Ghost has made them overseers, Acts 20:28ff), to graze among the wolves? An elder who would knowingly support such an event and false teacher is accountable in eternity for souls lost. They will give account to their Commander-in-Chief for their action. Why would any parent possibly allow their precious young ones to go among and be taught (molded, guided, instructed) by the wolves? Do you want to take the chance of your young people being led astray? Would we allow our youth to play with poisonous snakes? Would we encourage them to drive reckless or extremely fast (or similar dangerous activities)? Foolish questions? Certainly! But we must NOT allow our young ones to fall prey to wolves in sheep's clothing. Jubilee, Tulsa Workshop, Pepperdine, Abilene Christian, etc., have been places where "change agents" (wolves in sheep's clothing) are (by their teaching) advocating a complete destruction of the unique body of Christ. They are teaching and encouraging fellowship with denominations. Our youth are precious to us. We should value and treasure each precious opportunity to teach and influence them. Let us make certain, to the best of our ability, what they are taught is good and right. Make certain it is NOT evil and false ways. Paul Sain P.O. Box 329 Pulaski, TN 38478 |
Tuesday, March 17, 2015
Jeff Walling leads Youth Leadership Initiative at Pepperdine ... worker of the Devil, Son of disobedience, worships the Lord in vain, evil divider
"Therefore put to death your members which are on the earth: fornication,
uncleanness, passion, evil desire and covetousness which is idolatry.
Because of tehese things the wrath of God is coming upon the sons of
disobedience." - Colossians 3
http://www.network54.com/Forum/150389/thread/1075121197/last-1413215120/APOSTATE-+JEFF+WALLING%C2%97Should+Youth+Go+to+Winterfest-+%28Reviews+2013%29
To Jeff Walling the Lord is saying from the scripture,
" Get behind me Satan, for you are a hindrance .."
Regarding Jeff Walling strife division ...
http://www.bible.ca/ef/expository-galatians-5-16-21.htm
This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. (Gal. 5:16-21, KJV).
Monday, March 16, 2015
Jeff Walling leads Pepperdine Youth Leader Initiative, online publications suggest shares in apostasy, takes worldy apostasy way to attempt to promote church growth and in process becomes worker of Satan divider ...
Don't fall for Jeff Walling's demonic division building a house upon
on the sand, but build upon on the solid foundation- the rock
of Jesus Christ.
Jeff Walling leads Pepperdine Youth Leader Initiative, online publications
suggest shares in apostasy, takes worldy apostasy way to attempt to promote
church growth, and in the process becomes worker of Satan divider ...
COMPREHENSIVE STUDY ON NON INSTRUMENTS IN
WORSHIP VS- INSTRUMENTS LEAVES JEFF WALLING
POSITION FOR PUSHING INSTRUMENTS IN WORSHIP
IN THE DUST AND UTTERLY DEFEATED.
FOR THIS INCREDIBLE AND AWESOME STUDY,
SEE - CLICK LINK HERE> http://instrumentalmusicinworshipornot.blogspot.com/
Warn your fellow churches to not have Walling preach at your church !
Evidence shows Walling a big player in movement using apostasy
Rick Warren Corporate Church growth package for church growth,
not God''s word.
Also: Walling consistent in rude, impudent, self willed, arrogant,
un -christlike conduct calling faithful Christians Pharisees when he and his
cohorts are tthe Pharisees making up their own rules and trying to force them
on others with consistent rude, impudent, self willed, arrogant, un -christlike
conduct/ verbage. One of Walling's friends says Churches of Christ are dying
and implied that therefore Walling's ways are justified. Wrong.
Jeff Walling and his followers use gimmicks, but that's not how a church
has solid growth. Evidence is showing Jeff walling and his followers are also using
apostasy ways to attempt church growth methods which cause division, which
God's word says therefore that must they be disfellowshipped - Romans 16: 17-19).
Jesus adds to the church as many are being saved, and that happens by church
leaders and members allowing themselves, through loving God and others, to be
used as his vessel for good works. God's word says, " let our people be careful to
maintain good works" , " always abiding in the work of the Lord", and " provoking
one another unto love and good deeds."
Well let's remind folks, it is also itching ears for Walling humor and ways
which are one cause of churches dying ! God's word warns of those who
heap up for themselves teachers of their own liking.
For more on this SEE below:
Churches die because they lose their first love as Jesus speaks about in the
Book of Revelations. Love dies, so a church does not plant the word of God
in the homes and the community (ies). They fail to love others and express
that love fro God and of God to others in the form of good works and
planting the word of God fto individuals in their neighborhoods and
communities. THAT is why churches die. Jesus speaks of this, warning in the
book of Revelations, speaking of removing the lampstand of one church
and spewing another out of his mouth.
EXAMPLES OF THE RECENT PAST, and the CURE for this:
Instead of challenging and inviting to have meetings for debates/
correction of denominations ( false teachers/ churches who e\lead people
away from Christ,), an online publication (s?) says Walling
accepts them as believers ! In essence, Walling joins them !
1) Mid 1980's, around 1984-1987 - The great preacher, J.J. Turner in a
sermon at the Orange County CA Newland St . Church of Christ in Garden Grove
told (Walling's preached at up to 1983) of a poll showing church growth in
Churches of Christ actually not from baptisms, but was from church members
moving around to different churches.
( Could that have been because of inching ears for Walling's humor laced joke
preaching ? Little did many know: He's always wanting to institute instrumental
music, which he tried to do at the next church he went to preach at in 1983-
The Mission Viejo Church of Christ- which they rejected per their church
secretary to me). That's division folks !
At the time, Jeff Walling had recently left to preach at the Mission Viejo
church of Christ in Orange County). Some humor is good, but a short
time after Walling's departure from the J.J. Turner Newland St. Church,
preacher J.J. Turner spoke in a sermon, saying that too much humor in a
sermon is a distraction in preaching.
2) Elder Bob Clark, Church of Christ in Orange County CA, in
1982 told me (the author of this blog) that up to the early 60's,
the Churches of Christ in America were the largest growing body of
believers - churches- up to the early 60's when liberalism creeped in.
3) Jeff Walling Youth rally at Walling's church around1982-83',
Newland St. Garden Grove, CA: Youth class instructor from outside the area
correctly stated that the reason false teaching churches/denominations
are growing so much in America is that we are not challenging them and
correcting them. He also stated that the Churches of Christ used to debate them
but not anymore, and that this is why they are growing so much. He stated we
need to get back to debating them, and correcting them. We need to tell others
about the false teaching of denominations, which do not lead others to Christ,
but away from him.
4) As preacher Jimmy Gaston said in a sermon in 2003, "If people knew
that God is love, they will come to church."
5) " The church is to be the manifestation of God's love toward mankind."
- Church of Christ preacher Bill Johnson, sermon in 1987-88'
6) INVITE OTHERS TO THE CHURCH ASSEMBLY - An important
and effectual way to lead others to Christ is simply for members to invite
others to the Sunday morning, Wednesday or other church
assembly times. Invite the bank host, hostess, waitress, co-worker,
shopping check stand cashier- All ! - Quote a scripture to them first, one
that you learned before or after becoming a Christian. Put this paragraph in
your church bulletin. Ask your preacher and elders if they would do so.
Man needs God's love through Jesus for redemption from his sins, and
through him salvation. We are his instruments to let our light so shine before
men to lead others to Christ by being like him, loving others and serving others
with the love of Christ toward others at every opportunity. As his word says,
"Let us do good unto all men, especially to them that are of the household of faith",
which also includes planting his word at every opportunity.
One does not lead others to Christ by compromising his word.
on the sand, but build upon on the solid foundation- the rock
of Jesus Christ.
Jeff Walling leads Pepperdine Youth Leader Initiative, online publications
suggest shares in apostasy, takes worldy apostasy way to attempt to promote
church growth, and in the process becomes worker of Satan divider ...
COMPREHENSIVE STUDY ON NON INSTRUMENTS IN
WORSHIP VS- INSTRUMENTS LEAVES JEFF WALLING
POSITION FOR PUSHING INSTRUMENTS IN WORSHIP
IN THE DUST AND UTTERLY DEFEATED.
FOR THIS INCREDIBLE AND AWESOME STUDY,
SEE - CLICK LINK HERE> http://instrumentalmusicinworshipornot.blogspot.com/
Warn your fellow churches to not have Walling preach at your church !
Evidence shows Walling a big player in movement using apostasy
Rick Warren Corporate Church growth package for church growth,
not God''s word.
Also: Walling consistent in rude, impudent, self willed, arrogant,
un -christlike conduct calling faithful Christians Pharisees when he and his
cohorts are tthe Pharisees making up their own rules and trying to force them
on others with consistent rude, impudent, self willed, arrogant, un -christlike
conduct/ verbage. One of Walling's friends says Churches of Christ are dying
and implied that therefore Walling's ways are justified. Wrong.
Jeff Walling and his followers use gimmicks, but that's not how a church
has solid growth. Evidence is showing Jeff walling and his followers are also using
apostasy ways to attempt church growth methods which cause division, which
God's word says therefore that must they be disfellowshipped - Romans 16: 17-19).
Jesus adds to the church as many are being saved, and that happens by church
leaders and members allowing themselves, through loving God and others, to be
used as his vessel for good works. God's word says, " let our people be careful to
maintain good works" , " always abiding in the work of the Lord", and " provoking
one another unto love and good deeds."
Well let's remind folks, it is also itching ears for Walling humor and ways
which are one cause of churches dying ! God's word warns of those who
heap up for themselves teachers of their own liking.
For more on this SEE below:
Churches die because they lose their first love as Jesus speaks about in the
Book of Revelations. Love dies, so a church does not plant the word of God
in the homes and the community (ies). They fail to love others and express
that love fro God and of God to others in the form of good works and
planting the word of God fto individuals in their neighborhoods and
communities. THAT is why churches die. Jesus speaks of this, warning in the
book of Revelations, speaking of removing the lampstand of one church
and spewing another out of his mouth.
EXAMPLES OF THE RECENT PAST, and the CURE for this:
Instead of challenging and inviting to have meetings for debates/
correction of denominations ( false teachers/ churches who e\lead people
away from Christ,), an online publication (s?) says Walling
accepts them as believers ! In essence, Walling joins them !
1) Mid 1980's, around 1984-1987 - The great preacher, J.J. Turner in a
sermon at the Orange County CA Newland St . Church of Christ in Garden Grove
told (Walling's preached at up to 1983) of a poll showing church growth in
Churches of Christ actually not from baptisms, but was from church members
moving around to different churches.
( Could that have been because of inching ears for Walling's humor laced joke
preaching ? Little did many know: He's always wanting to institute instrumental
music, which he tried to do at the next church he went to preach at in 1983-
The Mission Viejo Church of Christ- which they rejected per their church
secretary to me). That's division folks !
At the time, Jeff Walling had recently left to preach at the Mission Viejo
church of Christ in Orange County). Some humor is good, but a short
time after Walling's departure from the J.J. Turner Newland St. Church,
preacher J.J. Turner spoke in a sermon, saying that too much humor in a
sermon is a distraction in preaching.
2) Elder Bob Clark, Church of Christ in Orange County CA, in
1982 told me (the author of this blog) that up to the early 60's,
the Churches of Christ in America were the largest growing body of
believers - churches- up to the early 60's when liberalism creeped in.
3) Jeff Walling Youth rally at Walling's church around1982-83',
Newland St. Garden Grove, CA: Youth class instructor from outside the area
correctly stated that the reason false teaching churches/denominations
are growing so much in America is that we are not challenging them and
correcting them. He also stated that the Churches of Christ used to debate them
but not anymore, and that this is why they are growing so much. He stated we
need to get back to debating them, and correcting them. We need to tell others
about the false teaching of denominations, which do not lead others to Christ,
but away from him.
4) As preacher Jimmy Gaston said in a sermon in 2003, "If people knew
that God is love, they will come to church."
5) " The church is to be the manifestation of God's love toward mankind."
- Church of Christ preacher Bill Johnson, sermon in 1987-88'
6) INVITE OTHERS TO THE CHURCH ASSEMBLY - An important
and effectual way to lead others to Christ is simply for members to invite
others to the Sunday morning, Wednesday or other church
assembly times. Invite the bank host, hostess, waitress, co-worker,
shopping check stand cashier- All ! - Quote a scripture to them first, one
that you learned before or after becoming a Christian. Put this paragraph in
your church bulletin. Ask your preacher and elders if they would do so.
Man needs God's love through Jesus for redemption from his sins, and
through him salvation. We are his instruments to let our light so shine before
men to lead others to Christ by being like him, loving others and serving others
with the love of Christ toward others at every opportunity. As his word says,
"Let us do good unto all men, especially to them that are of the household of faith",
which also includes planting his word at every opportunity.
One does not lead others to Christ by compromising his word.
Saturday, March 14, 2015
Jeff Walling leads Pepperdine Youth Leader Initiative ... Coming to a University and local congregation near you- It's the Jeff Walling 'Butts for Lust' Dating program !
Jeff Walling leads Pepperdine Youth Leader Initiative ...
An online publication suggests Walling encourages dancing
in services ...
Coming to a University and local congregation near you!
It's the Jeff Walling 'Butts for Lust' church dating program !
Yes ! Dare to Dance with The Devil and Apostates !
Gal's shaking their booty in tight blue jeans and tight butts
dancing in 'worship' and nearly guaranteeing eternity in hell.
It's the ' Butts For Lust' Jeff Walling College and local church
dating program !
Throw reverence for God aside ladies and gents ! Guys,
get a great view girl in the pew ahead of you shaking
her booty in summer shorts or tight pants !
Evidence told by credible others show Walling and his friends
pushing the heresy of faith only Rick Warren Saddleback Community
church model through the Rick Warren Saddleback Community
church executive corporate model growth packet/programming.
Is it true? SEE the link at post below :
-What Happened At The Madison Church of Christ-
http://www.concernedmembers.com/thebook/
An online publication suggests Walling encourages dancing
in services ...
Coming to a University and local congregation near you!
It's the Jeff Walling 'Butts for Lust' church dating program !
Yes ! Dare to Dance with The Devil and Apostates !
Gal's shaking their booty in tight blue jeans and tight butts
dancing in 'worship' and nearly guaranteeing eternity in hell.
It's the ' Butts For Lust' Jeff Walling College and local church
dating program !
Throw reverence for God aside ladies and gents ! Guys,
get a great view girl in the pew ahead of you shaking
her booty in summer shorts or tight pants !
Evidence told by credible others show Walling and his friends
pushing the heresy of faith only Rick Warren Saddleback Community
church model through the Rick Warren Saddleback Community
church executive corporate model growth packet/programming.
Is it true? SEE the link at post below :
-What Happened At The Madison Church of Christ-
http://www.concernedmembers.com/thebook/
Wednesday, March 11, 2015
Jeff Walling leads Pepperdine Youth Leader Initiative -Given Jeff Walling's heresy, should Walling be leading in any youth related position? No.
-To Parent's and College students: Reject Jeff Walling -
Unchrist like miscreant, jokster, and heresy lover Jeff Walling banned
from Harding University, should be banned from Pepperdine also ...
Evidence told by credible others show Walling and his friends
pushing the heresy of faith only Rick Warren Saddleback Community
church model through the Rick Warren Saddleback Community
church executive corporate model growth packet/programming.
Is it true? SEE the link at post below :
-What Happened At The Madison Church of Christ-
http://www.concernedmembers.com/thebook/
Evil Apostate Jeff Walling gnashes his teeth at a
faithful church ... because it does not have
instrumental music (and a youth group in a
church ?) ....
In 1982 calls a Church of Christ of the faithful the
'Church of Pharisees ' ...
12: The wicked plot against the righteous and gnash their teeth at them;
13: but the Lord laughs at the wicked, for he knows their day is coming.
- Psalms 37: 12-13
Given Walling's heresy, consistent pattern of unchrist like, impudent,
sarcastic snide attitude, should Walling be leading in any youth
related position?
Answer: No.
Jeff Walling recently joined and now leads the
Pepperdine Youth Leader Initiative, which he founded.
Walling is a bad example and heresy lover.
To Parent's and College students: Reject Jeff Walling.
Do you want your kids turning into unchrist like, sarcastic,
snyde little hypocrite Jeff Wallings? That's what happened
at Walling's church in the 80's: youth at Walling rallies
trying to act funny all the time and beyond the rallies.
One college student and Walling admirer who attended
visiting Walling's church many times (as a member of another
church) was so bad back then, an elder's wife 30 or so years
of that ember's church later remembered that this one's
behavior was so bad (Yes I know, it was !) , and said all
those years later to ME: He (the student) needs to apologize !
That student at the time wanted to be a preacher! This
individual attended a Christian University.
Like at Warren's Saddleback church dancing, Walling wants
women's butts in jeans shaking, dancing in the pews that are in
front of men in the pews ahead of them ? Is this appropriate in the
house of the Lord? Reckless presentation of temptation of lust -
Dancing in worship - by Walling. GOOGLE the following website:
aconqueringfaith.net/2008/02/leeching-on-our-children
It's not just the dancing. It's about Walling's consistent, decades long
FULL OF HIMSELF, ARROGANT, SARCASTIC unchrislike
behavior/ verbage. ALSO:
Evidence told by credible others show Walling and his friends
pushing the heresy of Rick Warren Saddleback Community
church model through the Rick Warren Saddleback Community
church executive corporate model growth packet/programming.
Is it true? SEE the link at post below :
-What Happened At The Madison Church of Christ-
http://www.concernedmembers.com/thebook/
Is it true?
This is why the Whittier church of Christ was turned into the
Rick Warren Saddleback church model. It's preacher Bruce Rokus
follower/ friend and follower of Jeff Walling - Walling baptized
Rokus years ago) and 'elders' changed the name of Whittier
Church of Christ to 'Crosspoint Christian Church'.
One of Rokus's members said to a visitor, 'Did you know Catholics
are saved too?" Rick Warren's Community church works with
many denominations known to be false teaching; in addition, it teaches
faith only saves you, and baptism is not necessary. There are
reports Walling is espousing faith that saves, and baptism is not
necessary.
A former Whittier church of Christ member related
that an elder walked around the church assembly with a
Rick Warren Saddleback Church growth packet/ program.
This packet is being brought into churches of Christ for hostile
takeovers of Churches of Christ by Walling followers and others
according to 'What Happened At The Madison Church'.
SEE> 'What Happened At The Madison Church' to read
all about it. The pdf is available for free.
- SEE POST BELOW FOR LINK TO IT -
" Pepperdine has gone the Rick Warren way for years now.
Jeff walling has been up to this for 15 years now."
- quote from Elder of an Orange County California
Church of Christ
Wed. 3/11/15
Unchrist like miscreant, jokster, and heresy lover Jeff Walling banned
from Harding University, should be banned from Pepperdine also ...
Evidence told by credible others show Walling and his friends
pushing the heresy of faith only Rick Warren Saddleback Community
church model through the Rick Warren Saddleback Community
church executive corporate model growth packet/programming.
Is it true? SEE the link at post below :
-What Happened At The Madison Church of Christ-
http://www.concernedmembers.com/thebook/
Evil Apostate Jeff Walling gnashes his teeth at a
faithful church ... because it does not have
instrumental music (and a youth group in a
church ?) ....
In 1982 calls a Church of Christ of the faithful the
'Church of Pharisees ' ...
12: The wicked plot against the righteous and gnash their teeth at them;
13: but the Lord laughs at the wicked, for he knows their day is coming.
- Psalms 37: 12-13
Given Walling's heresy, consistent pattern of unchrist like, impudent,
sarcastic snide attitude, should Walling be leading in any youth
related position?
Answer: No.
Jeff Walling recently joined and now leads the
Pepperdine Youth Leader Initiative, which he founded.
Walling is a bad example and heresy lover.
To Parent's and College students: Reject Jeff Walling.
Do you want your kids turning into unchrist like, sarcastic,
snyde little hypocrite Jeff Wallings? That's what happened
at Walling's church in the 80's: youth at Walling rallies
trying to act funny all the time and beyond the rallies.
One college student and Walling admirer who attended
visiting Walling's church many times (as a member of another
church) was so bad back then, an elder's wife 30 or so years
of that ember's church later remembered that this one's
behavior was so bad (Yes I know, it was !) , and said all
those years later to ME: He (the student) needs to apologize !
That student at the time wanted to be a preacher! This
individual attended a Christian University.
Like at Warren's Saddleback church dancing, Walling wants
women's butts in jeans shaking, dancing in the pews that are in
front of men in the pews ahead of them ? Is this appropriate in the
house of the Lord? Reckless presentation of temptation of lust -
Dancing in worship - by Walling. GOOGLE the following website:
aconqueringfaith.net/2008/02/leeching-on-our-children
It's not just the dancing. It's about Walling's consistent, decades long
FULL OF HIMSELF, ARROGANT, SARCASTIC unchrislike
behavior/ verbage. ALSO:
Evidence told by credible others show Walling and his friends
pushing the heresy of Rick Warren Saddleback Community
church model through the Rick Warren Saddleback Community
church executive corporate model growth packet/programming.
Is it true? SEE the link at post below :
-What Happened At The Madison Church of Christ-
http://www.concernedmembers.com/thebook/
Is it true?
This is why the Whittier church of Christ was turned into the
Rick Warren Saddleback church model. It's preacher Bruce Rokus
follower/ friend and follower of Jeff Walling - Walling baptized
Rokus years ago) and 'elders' changed the name of Whittier
Church of Christ to 'Crosspoint Christian Church'.
One of Rokus's members said to a visitor, 'Did you know Catholics
are saved too?" Rick Warren's Community church works with
many denominations known to be false teaching; in addition, it teaches
faith only saves you, and baptism is not necessary. There are
reports Walling is espousing faith that saves, and baptism is not
necessary.
A former Whittier church of Christ member related
that an elder walked around the church assembly with a
Rick Warren Saddleback Church growth packet/ program.
This packet is being brought into churches of Christ for hostile
takeovers of Churches of Christ by Walling followers and others
according to 'What Happened At The Madison Church'.
SEE> 'What Happened At The Madison Church' to read
all about it. The pdf is available for free.
- SEE POST BELOW FOR LINK TO IT -
" Pepperdine has gone the Rick Warren way for years now.
Jeff walling has been up to this for 15 years now."
- quote from Elder of an Orange County California
Church of Christ
Wed. 3/11/15
Monday, March 9, 2015
Jeff Walling encourages disrespect, unloving conduct towards wives, says husband should tell wife," SO What!", if she says doesn't like blue screen in front in worship hall
Apostate Jeff Walling gnashes his teeth at the faithful ...
12: The wicked plot against the righteous and gnash their teeth at them;
13: but the Lord laughs at the wicked, for he knows their day is coming.
- Psalms 37: 12-13
SEE ! -What Happened At The Madison Church of Christ-
http://www.concernedmembers.com/thebook/
Regarding Jeff Walling- Romans 16:17-19
18For such men are slaves, not of our Lord Christ
but of their own appetites; and by their smooth
and flattering speech they deceive the hearts of
the unsuspecting. 19For the report of your
obedience has reached to all; therefore I am
rejoicing over you, but I want you to be wise in
what is good, and innocent of what is evil.
Walling using youth of churches as change
agents of churches instead of preaching
God's word, and letting it do what the
Lord meant to save men souls ....
Will Jeff Walling ever grow up? Is there
an underlying psycho learning meaning
here? Why a divisive, perpetual Walling
youth group mindset and Walling mocking
toward churches? GOOGLE Walling at
Youth Jubilee, Jubilee banned ...
ALSO .......
Jeff Walling encourages disrespect, unloving conduct
towards wives, says husband should tell wife,
"SO What!", if she says doesn't like blue screen
in front in worship hall
A disobedient to the Lord, self willed,
headstrong and arrogant Jeff Walling
pushes disrespectful conduct towards
wives, says husband should tell wife,
"So What!"if she says she does not like
the blue screen in front in worship hall.
Walling said: If a wife comes to her
husband and says she doesn't like the
blue screen in front of the worship hall,
what should he say to his wife? "Walling
proceeded to answer his own question
with his answer to the question.
His answer: "So What ! "
Walling said this in a video of Walling
speaking at the Oklahoma workshop.
This video was show by Walling admirer/
follower Bruce Rokus at the Whittier
Church of Christ in 2012. That church
was changed to 'Crosspoint Christian
Church' by B. Rokus and his dividers in
2013 or 2014.
Walling and his followers push the blue
screen on congregations as a singing tool used
to put song worship songs for the congregations
to read and sing along to, mostly with youth
group type songs - 7/11 songs that in essence
have seven words repeated eleven times - as a
seeming attempt to youth groupify the entire
congregational worship. This is wrong.
It divides the worship to where hardly anyone at
all uses the song books and eliminates traditional
strong and meaningful songs.
The Lord rebukes Walling and his divisive
followers who push the Rick Warren
Community church pattern. Do not follow
with them. In Romans 16: 17-19, the Lord
says to turn away from them.
Also ...
1982 , Jeff Walling tells church member visiting
Walling's church, " So how's the church of the
Pharisees ? ", mocking the visiting member's
church who's leaders and members were and
still are loving Christians faithful to the Lord.
12: The wicked plot against the righteous and gnash their teeth at them;
13: but the Lord laughs at the wicked, for he knows their day is coming.
- Psalms 37: 12-13
SEE ! -What Happened At The Madison Church of Christ-
http://www.concernedmembers.com/thebook/
Regarding Jeff Walling- Romans 16:17-19
17Now I urge you, bretheren, keep your eye on those who cause dissensions and hindrances contrary to the teaching which you learned, and turn away from them.
but of their own appetites; and by their smooth
and flattering speech they deceive the hearts of
the unsuspecting. 19For the report of your
obedience has reached to all; therefore I am
rejoicing over you, but I want you to be wise in
what is good, and innocent of what is evil.
Walling using youth of churches as change
agents of churches instead of preaching
God's word, and letting it do what the
Lord meant to save men souls ....
Will Jeff Walling ever grow up? Is there
an underlying psycho learning meaning
here? Why a divisive, perpetual Walling
youth group mindset and Walling mocking
toward churches? GOOGLE Walling at
Youth Jubilee, Jubilee banned ...
ALSO .......
Jeff Walling encourages disrespect, unloving conduct
towards wives, says husband should tell wife,
"SO What!", if she says doesn't like blue screen
in front in worship hall
A disobedient to the Lord, self willed,
headstrong and arrogant Jeff Walling
pushes disrespectful conduct towards
wives, says husband should tell wife,
"So What!"if she says she does not like
the blue screen in front in worship hall.
Walling said: If a wife comes to her
husband and says she doesn't like the
blue screen in front of the worship hall,
what should he say to his wife? "Walling
proceeded to answer his own question
with his answer to the question.
His answer: "So What ! "
Walling said this in a video of Walling
speaking at the Oklahoma workshop.
This video was show by Walling admirer/
follower Bruce Rokus at the Whittier
Church of Christ in 2012. That church
was changed to 'Crosspoint Christian
Church' by B. Rokus and his dividers in
2013 or 2014.
Walling and his followers push the blue
screen on congregations as a singing tool used
to put song worship songs for the congregations
to read and sing along to, mostly with youth
group type songs - 7/11 songs that in essence
have seven words repeated eleven times - as a
seeming attempt to youth groupify the entire
congregational worship. This is wrong.
It divides the worship to where hardly anyone at
all uses the song books and eliminates traditional
strong and meaningful songs.
The Lord rebukes Walling and his divisive
followers who push the Rick Warren
Community church pattern. Do not follow
with them. In Romans 16: 17-19, the Lord
says to turn away from them.
Also ...
1982 , Jeff Walling tells church member visiting
Walling's church, " So how's the church of the
Pharisees ? ", mocking the visiting member's
church who's leaders and members were and
still are loving Christians faithful to the Lord.
Regarding Jeff Walling - Romans 16:17-19 ... 17Now I urge you, bretheren, keep your eye on those who cause dissensions and hindrances contrary to the teaching which you learned, and turn away from them. .
18For such men are slaves, not of our Lord Christ
but of their own appetites; and by their smooth
and flattering speech they deceive the hearts of
the unsuspecting. 19For the report of your
obedience has reached to all; therefore I am
rejoicing over you, but I want you to be wise in
what is good, and innocent of what is evil.
but of their own appetites; and by their smooth
and flattering speech they deceive the hearts of
the unsuspecting. 19For the report of your
obedience has reached to all; therefore I am
rejoicing over you, but I want you to be wise in
what is good, and innocent of what is evil.
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